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So there should be a different model+algorithm for each language, and the exact same data in terms of type, origin, amount, and quality. This is, IMVHO, the main obstacle to singularity, the other, maybe a lesser one, is the interface.\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnyway, the elephant in the room will always be hype-generating marketing, as in this case, because there\u0026#39;s no evidence that any single company is much ahead of the others. This can no longer be the case in a world where every little bit of information is instantly available and disseminated (or perhaps dispersed).\u003Cbr \/\u003EMy two cents."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/8912213764576669426\/comments\/default\/2215352793578140551"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/8912213764576669426\/comments\/default\/2215352793578140551"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/12\/the-english-centric-bias-of-large.html?showComment=1701870068627#c2215352793578140551","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/12\/the-english-centric-bias-of-large.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-8912213764576669426","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/8912213764576669426","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"December 6, 2023 at 5:41 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-4588109467782789450"},"published":{"$t":"2023-05-26T08:23:35.970-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-05-26T08:23:35.970-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Hello Kirti - I\u0026#39;d like to tell you about my mu..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Hello Kirti - I\u0026#39;d like to tell you about my multilingual project - \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EActiveDictionary - a general intelligence system for contextual learning - https:\/\/activedictionary.com\/\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ELanguages:\u003Cbr \/\u003EArabic, Chinese, English, Finnish, French, German, Hebrew, Hindi, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, Ukrainian\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EFeatures:\u003Cbr \/\u003E- allows you to organize a detailed semantic analysis of the vocabulary of the text to understand the structure of sentences with the ability to translate both words and phrases, and the text as a whole.\u003Cbr \/\u003E- helps you to systematize and store scientific knowledge in your glossaries and dictionaries.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETechnology:\u003Cbr \/\u003ESymbolic multilingual model - a coherent conceptual model of the world transferred into all the existing languages. The model is represented in wordhippo.com on the level of individual meanings and in powerthesaurus.org on the level of word combinations.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPatents:\u003Cbr \/\u003EUS2021033447 - Neural network for interpreting sentences of a natural language\u003Cbr \/\u003Ehttps:\/\/patentscope.wipo.int\/search\/en\/detail.jsf?docId=US339762244\u0026amp;_fid=WO2020106180\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EReferences:\u003Cbr \/\u003EEpistemological General Intelligence System - Building a Knowledge-based General Intelligence System, Michael Molin - https:\/\/docs.google.com\/presentation\/d\/1VCjOHOSostUrtxieZvOjaWuTNCT59DMF\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/7959893833439872376\/comments\/default\/4588109467782789450"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/7959893833439872376\/comments\/default\/4588109467782789450"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/05\/the-limits-of-language-ai.html?showComment=1685114615970#c4588109467782789450","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Michael Molin"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10855797137635347186"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/05\/the-limits-of-language-ai.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-7959893833439872376","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/7959893833439872376","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-476549960"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"May 26, 2023 at 8:23 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6160072900996093431"},"published":{"$t":"2023-05-04T12:16:38.853-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-05-04T12:16:38.853-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I had missed this publication at the time, thanks ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I had missed this publication at the time, thanks a lot for the reflection, Kirti (and thanks Nataly, Adam, Jon, for the comments). This is a term I am personally also struggling with in my personal quest for simple and powerful language to reposition all-encompassing globalization efforts\u0026quot; on the enterprise side. This is great food for thought."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6160072900996093431"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6160072900996093431"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1683227798853#c6160072900996093431","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Jose Palomares"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"May 4, 2023 at 12:16 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-449136349434256904"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-23T14:05:48.270-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-23T14:05:48.270-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Jon, This link does a decent job of defining DevOp..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Jon, This link does a decent job of defining DevOps and this industry would need something similar, with overviews that are as substantial for the LangOps term to build momentum I would think. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EBut part of why I wrote my letter was to see if there were people who could articulate this in a way that could build buy-in or develop the definition to a greater level of clarity. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EOr to find better stories and descriptions that would clarify the value-add we are referring  to and impact of a \u0026quot;better\u0026quot; new term and also resonate at the customer level. This might essentially replace the LangOps term. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003Ehttps:\/\/www.techtarget.com\/searchitoperations\/definition\/DevOps"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/449136349434256904"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/449136349434256904"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677189948270#c449136349434256904","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 23, 2023 at 2:05 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-5196777799997556429"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-23T13:59:51.933-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-23T13:59:51.933-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Not to step into the fray here, but DevOps (which ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Not to step into the fray here, but DevOps (which I\u0026#39;m guessing is what LangOps is a play off of) is not clearly defined either. From Wikipedia: \u0026quot;Other than it being a cross-functional combination (and a portmanteau) of the terms and concepts for \u0026quot;development\u0026quot; and \u0026quot;operations\u0026quot;, academics and practitioners have not developed a universal definition for the term \u0026quot;DevOps\u0026quot;.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI also have to say I am partial to the idea of using it to better explain to non-industry folks the role of i18n, l10n and NLP operations teams working within a tech company. We\u0026#39;re all generally in the position of leveraging language as a business driver from a technical perspective.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI guess we\u0026#39;ll watch over the decade if the term thrives or dies off 🤷‍♂️"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5196777799997556429"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5196777799997556429"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677189591933#c5196777799997556429","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Jon Ritzdorf"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jonritzdorf\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 23, 2023 at 1:59 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-7756558072349994954"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:34:49.842-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:34:49.842-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Kirti Vashee well, I like it enough that I just bo..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Kirti Vashee well, I like it enough that I just bought the LangOps.io domain. :-)"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7756558072349994954"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7756558072349994954"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677008089842#c7756558072349994954","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Adam Asnes"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lingoport\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:34 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-5385651859623493203"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:33:15.922-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:33:15.922-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"When you search on \u0026quot;localization\u0026quot; you ge..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"When you search on \u0026quot;localization\u0026quot; you get an extensive range of content sources from academics, to TMS vendors to Big Enterprise guidelines on how to interface with their global market needs to LSPs touting their services. 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It needs to have broader support and at least intellectual investment by independent parties to be considered seriously IMO"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5385651859623493203"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5385651859623493203"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677007995922#c5385651859623493203","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:33 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6879541141968086898"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:31:46.049-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:31:46.049-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I don\u0026#39;t disagree with you, and I don\u0026#39;t see..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I don\u0026#39;t disagree with you, and I don\u0026#39;t see using it in a marketing sense unless it sticks. I just wonder if we can use the term in discussion with a development team and get some heads nodding. Of course the intent of the term was also to relate to the human translation side of automation. Do a quick search using LangOps and you\u0026#39;ll see the term is well on the way to wherever it\u0026#39;s going. I\u0026#39;m open for anything that broadens the appeal and people outside the industry still clearly struggle with our industry concepts. I don\u0026#39;t think LangOps does harm, but if I could go back in time and eliminate other distinctions\/terminology like i18n, I would."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6879541141968086898"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6879541141968086898"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677007906049#c6879541141968086898","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Adam Asnes"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lingoport\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:31 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-7270194300628249476"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:30:46.285-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:30:46.285-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Adam Asnes The heart of the problem is that it is ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Adam Asnes The heart of the problem is that it is UNCLEAR what it means to a customer. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EYou zeroed in on the problem with this statement: \u0026quot; The thing is that LangOps will mean different things to various roles in our industry. \u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENow add the customer and see what happens. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ELanguage and terminology are useful when it provides clarity and enables understanding. But not so much if creates confusion and semantic mystery.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETry selling your products at State of the Art LangOps tools and see how many customers understand that."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7270194300628249476"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7270194300628249476"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677007846285#c7270194300628249476","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:30 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1434235803635575610"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:30:01.971-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:30:01.971-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Actually, I kind of like it. In my little world of..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Actually, I kind of like it. In my little world of working with development teams I am suspecting the term will be useful, but it’s too early to tell. The thing is that LangOps will mean different things to various roles in our industry. I immediately think of it as automation systems that work in sync with other creation activities (for me, that’s teams working on source code). Obviously, translation or marketing teams will think of the term differently. Also, it sure beats GILT as a term."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/1434235803635575610"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677007801971#c1434235803635575610","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Adam Asnes"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lingoport\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:30 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-4510381524067032967"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:25:40.559-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-21T11:25:40.559-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Kirti Vashee agreed. I just want folks to be reali..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Kirti Vashee agreed. I just want folks to be realistic about what’s possible to do in terms of creating a category. To do that, it’s important to really understand how buyers view things. From the buyer side it doesn’t really sound that appealing. And in fact it could end up minimizing the true revenue impact — and sounds much more limiting due to losing the focus on country. Going global \/ local takes way more than just language, and certainly way more than just “ops.”"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/4510381524067032967"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/4510381524067032967"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1677007540559#c4510381524067032967","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7201751552960358451"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Nataly Kelly"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/natalykelly\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 21, 2023 at 11:25 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-5794191049226605606"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-20T08:58:04.698-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-20T08:58:04.698-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I agree. I think there are two angles that will ha..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I agree. I think there are two angles that will have much better appeal 1) International Revenue Expansion 2) Global CX Improvement  which means we Listen, Communicate and make more effort to understand global customers rather than just talk AT them"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5794191049226605606"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/5794191049226605606"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1676912284698#c5794191049226605606","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/4543925195665285514"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 20, 2023 at 8:58 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-4543925195665285514"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-20T08:55:18.150-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-20T08:55:18.150-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Kirti, I loved the article -- you nailed my own pe..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Kirti, I loved the article -- you nailed my own perception of \u0026quot;LangOps\u0026quot; so very well!\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EVague \u0026amp; fuzzy is exactly my biggest problem with it as a former Localization Director of a Unicorn tech company - that [marketing] term and its associated body of knowledge (in its current form) would have NOT helped me drive more change back in the day when I had that job.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMy other beef is that it\u0026#39;s not strategic enough to properly elevate global content professionals inside organizations (which is another perspective I deeply care about as a former Localization leader) - instead, it pushes us into low-level operations trenches even deeper (and makes us easier to let go when budgets are tight)\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIf you dare say to a corporate Head of Content Marketing they are a \u0026quot;MarcomOps\u0026quot; person now, I bet they\u0026#39;ll probably crucify you on the spot! Why are we then purposefully trying to do the same with our own kin through this new term?\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe part that I do like, though, was the added focus on \u0026quot;reading\u0026quot; or \u0026quot;listening\u0026quot;! Localization was traditionally a write-only team, but this HAS to change in the modern globalized world. I think this is a glimmer of the right type of change we are actually trying to drive under the (arguably misgiven) label of \u0026quot;LangOps\u0026quot;."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/4543925195665285514"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/4543925195665285514"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1676912118150#c4543925195665285514","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirill Soloviev"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kirillsoloviev\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 20, 2023 at 8:55 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-648274577204086287"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:24:36.361-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:24:36.361-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Nataly Kelly I of course agree with everything you..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Nataly Kelly I of course agree with everything you say. Thank you for articulating it so clearly. I believe using such vague terms is particularly a problem on the buyer side as I have never heard it used in any enterprise and I can only  imagine a sponsor asking for LangOps money!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/648274577204086287"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/648274577204086287"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1676751876361#c648274577204086287","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7201751552960358451"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 18, 2023 at 12:24 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-7201751552960358451"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:21:26.740-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:21:26.740-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Kirti, I think yours is a useful take. While I adm..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Kirti, I think yours is a useful take. While I admire the idea of creating some sort of bigger vision for the industry, when I put my Marketing hat on, sadly LangOps sounds pretty weak. The reason DevOps is powerful is because of the Dev part, not the Ops part. Power your development? Sure. Power your “lang”? Umm. When you take Ops and attach it to something as limiting and already weak and misunderstood (in a business setting) as Lang, it makes it sound even weaker than language or localization alone. I would prefer a term that empowers people in the industry, and resonates strongly with people on the revenue side. That’s why I like linking localization to revenue and GTM enablement instead. Relegating it just to the language piece removes the country piece — and “ops” is generally viewed as overhead that isn’t necessary and can be easily slashed away. I don’t think the term has any chance of truly taking off on the buyer side of the industry. And if it takes off in the vendor side I worry we will continue to further obfuscate the true value of localization to the real decision makers on the revenue side who determine the fate of localization budgets and teams. So I’m basically just keeping a skeptical eye on how it evolves."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7201751552960358451"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/7201751552960358451"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1676751686740#c7201751552960358451","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Nataly Kelly"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/natalykelly\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 18, 2023 at 12:21 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6973063780749252103"},"published":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:17:39.525-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2023-02-18T12:17:39.525-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Marketing stuff addressing people who know little ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Marketing stuff addressing people who know little or nothing of the topic."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6973063780749252103"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/1531303196503515222\/comments\/default\/6973063780749252103"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html?showComment=1676751459525#c6973063780749252103","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Luigi Muzii"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/luigimuzii\/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_detail_base%3BHK3jZ2VaRcywTHdAbjTzcA%3D%3D"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2023\/02\/the-problem-with-langops.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-1531303196503515222","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/1531303196503515222","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 18, 2023 at 12:17 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-5761788825990284724"},"published":{"$t":"2022-11-14T15:41:01.896-08:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2022-11-14T15:41:01.896-08:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"This is a welcome addition to the discussion of tr..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"This is a welcome addition to the discussion of translation markets (yes, plural). One point of confusion may be the terms localization market and translation market being used interchangeably. To me, translation is the umbrella term, with areas such as localization, copywriting, subtitling, etc. as subordinate to it.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETo the competent translators out there, whether they have a degree in translation or in other area like finance, chemistry or physics, this fabled premium market is just that, a myth, which becomes a reality only to its few practitioners who, like Mr. Hendzel and others, decry the so-called poverty mentality possessed by most translators who work in the bulk translation market. Translators don\u0026#39;t need that bit of condescension.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAs the article points out, the segments of this premium translation market are hidden from view to both LSPs and translators for a number of reasons. To translate classified documentation for the Dept. of Defense (USA) requires a specific type of clearance that the translator must have in advance. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI am also left wondering if the translators operating in this premium market are actually holders of more prominent or visible positions and they happen to be translators (because they have the chops for it, naturally). Sure, proponents of the premium market may keep saying that there are big opportunities for the rest of us to work in them, but you have to have the connections, you have to be in the right places and have not a trivial amount of luck to succeed. In conclusion, no amount of personal and professional effort will place the average translator (not just a mere bilingual staff) in the premium translation markets.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMario Chávez, translator"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/97152841359938224\/comments\/default\/5761788825990284724"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/97152841359938224\/comments\/default\/5761788825990284724"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2020\/08\/the-premium-translation-market-hiding.html?showComment=1668469261896#c5761788825990284724","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2020\/08\/the-premium-translation-market-hiding.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-97152841359938224","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/97152841359938224","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"November 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Smith"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.transcription-services-us.com\/Translation-Services-Madison.php"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2010\/11\/machine-translation-community-building.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-4113889835598640050","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/4113889835598640050","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"October 25, 2022 at 6:46 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-2043294000254174861"},"published":{"$t":"2022-07-26T18:16:22.934-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2022-07-26T18:16:22.934-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thank you for sharing this down-to-earth piece."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thank you for sharing this down-to-earth piece."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/4842615385164412581\/comments\/default\/2043294000254174861"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/4842615385164412581\/comments\/default\/2043294000254174861"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2021\/03\/the-impact-of-mt-on-freelance-translator.html?showComment=1658884582934#c2043294000254174861","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"radfordka"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10282148231035196347"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2021\/03\/the-impact-of-mt-on-freelance-translator.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-4842615385164412581","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/4842615385164412581","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-96202936"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"July 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To agree with whole heart I think is to agree with body, mind, and spirit. It is the deepest kind of agreement possible I think."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/9102350202998365232\/comments\/default\/4660399044639575876"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/9102350202998365232\/comments\/default\/4660399044639575876"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2021\/12\/the-human-space-beyond-language.html?showComment=1654883948326#c4660399044639575876","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/9102350202998365232\/comments\/default\/4751429433757219885"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2021\/12\/the-human-space-beyond-language.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-9102350202998365232","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/9102350202998365232","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"June 10, 2022 at 10:59 AM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-321485250158335925"},"published":{"$t":"2022-05-13T13:36:25.020-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2022-05-13T13:36:25.020-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"ModernMT is a significantly more adaptive MT syste..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"ModernMT is a significantly more adaptive MT system than DeepL, but it requires that the user teach the system with TM, corrective feedback and glossary terms entered in full sentence form. If a translator makes this investment the quality improvement yield will generally be MUCH greater than any generic system. Read the comments by the translators who have made this investment in the last part of the post. "},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/321485250158335925"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/321485250158335925"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html?showComment=1652474185020#c321485250158335925","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/7438130364720213172"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kirti Vashee"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/16795076802721564830"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"27","height":"32","src":"\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEjwaavuhaCU_Whf30B99E9LyGZdF7xhM6CsqYBqEl9w_JaUUgWWRTNJvYN1z1HaYkRtTXHVd490soRMAxI0gHS87XHtwlu6oOeoreL71pw8Uw6iLOjbso88I65oilewKw\/s220\/KV+ATL+Clean.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6355165395908406864","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/6355165395908406864","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-382963669"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"May 13, 2022 at 1:36 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-7438130364720213172"},"published":{"$t":"2022-04-30T14:03:19.463-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2022-04-30T14:03:19.463-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I tried modern Mt years ago. I prefer deepl. Why d..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I tried modern Mt years ago. I prefer deepl. Why do you prefer modern Mt? Are you sure that it is consistent with terminology inside TM?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/7438130364720213172"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/7438130364720213172"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html?showComment=1651352599463#c7438130364720213172","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6355165395908406864","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/6355165395908406864","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"April 30, 2022 at 2:03 PM"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-2815574005783871116"},"published":{"$t":"2022-04-20T10:32:06.853-07:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2022-04-20T10:32:06.853-07:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I agree with you. Blind trust may apply to languag..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I agree with you. Blind trust may apply to languages like French where there is considerable data. And even then both DeepL and Google goofed up on the word bâtiment: building but also a \u0026#39;navire\u0026quot;. The context allowed me to know it was a ship and not a building. In Low Resource languages, the situation is worse. And the need for PEMT is always present. But how long ?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/2815574005783871116"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/2815574005783871116"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html?showComment=1650475926853#c2815574005783871116","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6748877443699290050\/6355165395908406864\/comments\/default\/5175571443834704954"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Raymond Doctor"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/raymond-doctor-9b75aa13\/"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"https:\/\/kv-emptypages.blogspot.com\/2022\/03\/the-evolving-relationship-of-mt-with.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6748877443699290050.post-6355165395908406864","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6748877443699290050/posts/default/6355165395908406864","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-227520971"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"April 20, 2022 at 10:32 AM"}]}]}});